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Thursday, January 30, 2014

Real Bargain Shopping in Panama City, Panama

Good morning,

A couple of weeks ago, I wrote about the real cost of living in Panama and the real supermarket prices. After I published these articles, I got several emails and noticed several Facebook posts talking about how, after reading my articles, people were beginning to think that Panama isn't any less expensive than their hometowns. That was kind of the point of the article. It wasn't my intention to scare anyone, but I think it's important that people realize that Panama, just like anyplace else, is going to take a little bit of work. It's not as cheap as you might have heard. But if you look closely at the supermarket prices I laid out and read the cost of living report, you'll notice that I showed you not only local Panama brand prices, but also prices on things such as Oreos and Corona beer. Because you need to see what you'll spend if you buy imported goods.

How you shop and how you create your budget is completely your business. You might not care about living on a low budget. You might have a seemingly unlimited funds purse. But that's not the case for everyone. A good portion of people planning to escape to Panama, will have limited funds, a monthly allowance, that, if they go over, they'll be in trouble. So, as I've mentioned many times, it's important to abandon your current idea of shopping. You can't buy the brands you're used to if you want to save money here. And you can't simply clip coupons to keep buying what you're used to. You need to adopt a new shopping mentality and learn to shop like the locals.


Buying shoes at the La Onda in Villa Lucre will cost a lot less
than buying from the Jimmy Choo in Multiplaza

That's why, in this article, I'm going to introduce you to 3 bargain shopping playgrounds in and around Panama City. Sure, you could go to one of the malls. Multiplaza, the most upscale mall here, has great shopping. You'll see stores like Tiffany & Company, Cartier, Forever 21, Kenneth Cole, Zara, and Victoria's Secret. At Albrook Mall you'll find Gap, Gymboree, Banana Republic, etc. And even at Metro Mall you'll find Nautica, Claire's, Moose, Izod, and a handful of other stores you're familiar with. But that's not budget shopping. Sure, you might find incredible deals at random times in these stores, but I'm talking about your regular day-to-day shopping. 

Los Andes (Centro Comercial Los Andes) - This is one of my favorite shopping centers, and if you live in Las Cumbres or Villa Zaita, you're probably familiar with this area. It's a hodgepodge of faded colors and busy walkways as you'll find an eclectic mix of shops here. 


You'll find everything here, from clothing stores 
to electronics stores to a supermarket

Los Andes is located on Via Transistmica on the way to Las Cumbres. Getting there, especially if you're not familiar with Panama City streets, can be a bit tricky. Luckily, a Metro train station is being built right at the shopping center entrance, which should make getting there much easier. 

This new train station should make getting here much easier

My favorite store in Los Andes is Dorian's, which to me, is probably Panama's closest thing to a Marshalls or TJ Maxx. In this store you'll find some amazing deals, but be careful. Like Marshalls, you need to check your clothes before buying them. You'll find American brand names you'll recognize, but just check each item carefully. I've found several T-shirts I was interested in, only to have to put them back when I noticed a stain or a rip. 

See? Look at these prices

Marlene loves this place. If there's a Dorian's in the shopping center, she's there. You'll also find one in the Albrook mall, close to the movie theater. At stores like this, it's common to see prices as low as $1.99, $2.99, and $3.99, especially on T-shirts. Just make sure you try everything on first, as some clothes are built weird and fit super tight in the oddest of places. I think I've told you my experience with the jeans that gave me an instant wedgie. 

$6.99, $9.99...oh my!

Dorian's is also great for picking up the small things. If I'm going to the beach for the weekend and don't have flip flops, I'll go buy cheap ones from there, or if I need a new belt and don't want to spend a lot (I rarely dress up), I'll get one from Dorian's for somewhere between $5 and $10.

The first place in Panama where I found (bargain priced) size-12 shoes

Three other large, bargain department stores you'll find in Los Andes are El Titan (one of the best places to buy school supplies), El Costo, and El Campeón. In all of these places, you'll find clothing, shoes, makeup, office supplies, purses, hats, and even some home goods. You'll find fans, dishes, blankets, and other things of that nature. 

Another great bargain shopping store

If you have kids, you're sure to find great deals on children's clothes. I have to keep it real though. Oftentimes, the fabric is not the strongest. You get what you pay for, so the material will not be as good as what you'd get at Gymboree. Still, sometimes, especially with something like pajamas, it's nice to pick up a $5.99 pair rather than a $29.99 pair. Or a pair of $.49 underwear like you see in the photo below. 

Check out these prices on kids' underwear

And if you're artistic and like to sew your own clothes, you'll find a fabric store in Los Andes selling items at super low prices. 

Buy your clothes, or make your own

This place sells fabric that's great for clothes, uniforms, curtains, tablecloths, etc., and look at the prices: $1.49? $2.99? $1.99? You won't find prices like that at Multiplaza. 

No shortage of birthday party supply stores here

If you find yourself getting hungry at Los Andes, don't worry, as there's plenty of little restaurants and even a Wendy's on site. Plus, if you head up the stairs that are right next to Wendy's, there's even a little food court. You have to try one of the smoothies from the kiosk you see at the center of the food court. They're like $1.50 or $2.00. The prices vary depending on the flavor you choose, but you'll see banana, chocolate, strawberry, mango, cornflakes, the list goes on and on. 

Los Pueblos - 

One of my favorite places to shop, when I'm in a super-chill mood and don't mind the swarms of people and concentrated traffic I'll find when going there, is Los Pueblos. I mention this outdoor shopping mall often. Located in the Juan Diaz area, at the far end of Via España (opposite end of downtown Panama City), you'll know you arrived when you see the TGIF on the left hand side (you can also get there by traveling Ave. Domingo Diaz, it's right across the street from Metro Mall). 

You need to understand Los Pueblos for what it is, before you head out there. It's not a high-end mall where people are going to cater to your every need. It's not that at all. In fact, it's a hectic mess at times, especially on the weekends, as hordes of people descend upon the shops, all looking for the best deals. So be ready to rub elbows, shove your way through crowds, and stand in lines to get to the real bargains. 

A police trailer is located right at its center

If you're ready for this, you'll find a ton of stores at Los Pueblos, stores like Saks (no relation to the 5th Avenue store), which is a lot like Dorian's. The Saks in Los Pueblos is another of my favorite stores. I buy Silver Jack brand blue jeans for about $15 a pair (sometimes on sale for $10). Again, just check the clothes before purchasing them, as my wife recently bought a pair of pants that was missing the zipper. 

The best toy store in the city (on the right)

The Felix Outlet at Los Pueblos is one of the best toy stores in Panama. One side of the store is devoted to only toys, while the other has clothes. You'll also find an Estampa, La Onda, Oca Loca, which is the store I always associate with great Halloween shopping, Gran Morrison, Conway, El Campeón. You definitely have your pick of bargain shops.

You'll find clothing stores, household good stores, a Do It Center (do it yourself store), lighting stores, electronics stores, shoe stores, and even a couple of casinos. Los Pueblos is home to a Payless Shoes, a DDP outlet store, Adams, and lots of places to eat lunch.

A small pizza and a soda for only $3.99

Los Pueblos is where I go whenever I need to pick up a cheap charger for my cell phone or to buy covers or any other phone accessories. And it's a great place to get fresh coco water or pipa. This guy in the photo below will grab a coconut from his stash, slam it down onto a spike, then pour the fresh juice into an instant refrigeration machine and out into a brand new bottle. It's delicious.

Fresh pipa!

If you walk the shops of Los Pueblos, you're sure to find a deal. Again, always try on clothes before buying them. I piled up maybe 20 shirts the first time I visited here, all right around $1.99. I went nuts and since they were all XL size, I was fairly sure they'd fit. At the last second, I decided to go ahead and try some on. Out of the 20 shirts, only 3 fit. The rest hugged my body a little too snugly for comfort. When things are on sale at Los Pueblos, it's almost like being on a shopping spree. A hundred dollars seems like it'll last forever in some  stores. 

Lastly, on the subject of Los Pueblos, I have to mention that this is one of the best places to go to buy party supplies and piñatas. Even for bachelor and bachelorette parties. Watch out though. I've written about this before, long ago, in a blog post. 

These were staring my kid right in the face at the cash register

I went with my daughter once to get a piñata and had no idea what was in store. There, hanging from the ceiling, right next to the Disney princess castle piñata, was a group of butt naked piñatas, very well endowed dude piñatas too. These bachelor/bachelorette party piñatas are hung (pun intended) right next to the other kiddy kind of piñatas. 

See? I told you so! Try explaining that to your kid

I was half expecting my daughter to yell out, "Daddy, I want the princess with the black bikini." 

"Umm, that's not a bikini babe."

El Dorado

On Tumba Muerto, near Bethania, is the area called El Dorado. You'll know you're there when you see the big circular cake and smoothie shop at the corner of he parking lot and a casino on the other end. Farther back in the lot is the shopping center itself, and next to it is a KFC and Taco Bell.

You know you're in El Dorado when you see this building

El Dorado seems to be most famous for its electronics shops. No matter where you go to get your phone fixed or your Blu-ray player fixed, or your Playstation fixed, if the technician can't handle the job, he or she will tell you to take it to El Dorado. They can fix just about anything there. 

I got this rubber cell phone cover in El Dorado for $5

It's also a great place to shop. El Dorado is still on the lower end of the shopping scale, but it's rapidly improving. The mall management team is cleaning the mall up nicely and it's actually starting to look like the other malls in Panama City. At El Dorado you'll find a Conway furniture store, which is one of the best furniture stores in Panama. You'll also find a Saks, a Gran Morrison, a Rey supermarket, and many other small shops. 

This mall is starting to clean up nicely

I set out one day to find a suit for a wedding. I used to wear a suit every day back in the U.S., but I never wear one here. Who wants to wear a suit in Panama? Well, I've lost a lot of weight since moving here and none of my suits fit me. I looked ridiculous trying them on. I tried to find a fancy getup in Los Andes, but it's not the best place for that. I tried a few places actually, and I didn't want to spend much, because I knew I'd probably wear the suit once and never put it on again. I decided to check out the mall at El Dorado, and I'm glad I did. I found a suit for only $49.99 at the RM.

Very affordable suits at the RM in El Dorado

Plus, they had great prices on accessories. Shoes were inexpensive, belts, shirts...I got everything I needed in one store, after driving around all over the place. Now, I know this sounds like a commercial for them, lol, but it's not. The quality of the suit I bought was okay. I'm not sure it would've lasted through the long walks and varying temperatures I encountered in Chicago, but it definitely worked well for the wedding. 

Shirts, two for $12.99

If you want to find real bargains, don't just stick to the enclosed mall though. Make sure you check out the shops that surround the mall. You'll find tons of little electronic stores and other cool places. El Dorado even has a bowling alley. Plus, if you're into the kinky stuff, you'll find a couple of sex toy/video stores in El Dorado too. You can see one on the left in the following photo. 

It's on the left, right next to the tree...I know you're looking for it!

Hopefully, after reading this article, you'll realize there are some real finds out there, if you just get out and immerse yourself in real Panama living. Don't be afraid to go out and shop like locals because you're not going to save money shopping in the higher-end malls. 

If you're wondering about Avenida Central (down by Casco Viejo), yes, that's a bargain shopping destination, but I was trying to put shops on this list where you're not likely to have to finagle your way into a good deal. These aren't tourist shops, not really. Avenida Central kind of is. In Los Andes, Los Pueblos, and El Dorado, the price is right there on the object. You don't have to ask what the price is and try to figure out whether you're getting the real deal or the gringo inflated price.

If you live in any of the small towns in Panama's interior, you might not have a choice but to bargain shop, as it's rare to find the bigger chains outside of Panama City (except maybe in Chitre, Santiago, and David). That's a major factor in why it's much cheaper to live outside of Panama City. Sometimes you're forced to shop and live like the local townsfolk (unless you're out there cheating and ordering everything online...come on...we all do it from time to time). 

Oh one more thing. I'm sure some people are going to write to tell me that you have to be careful in the areas I mentioned. That is true. Just like anywhere else, if you shop in Los Andes, Los Pueblos, or El Dorado, don't flash your money around. Know how much cash you have before you set out so you don't have to pull out a wad of bills on the sidewalk. 

Police are everywhere, especially in Los Pueblos and Los Andes, so I wouldn't say these areas are unsafe. But you have to know that if you're shopping where there are true bargains, you're shopping with other people who are shopping on a limited budget. So don't be flashy, and it's probably better to shop during the day than at night in these outdoor shopping centers. 

Thanks so much for reading,

Chris

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Monday, December 9, 2013

Q&A Monday - Immigration, garbage collection, and Las Cumbres, Panama


Hey everybody, happy Monday! Yesterday was Mother’s Day here in Panama. It’s celebrated on December 8th in celebration of the Feast of Immaculate Conception, which is honor of the Virgin Mary. We had a great time. I cooked dinner and a lot of mamas came over.

So, I have one day in between Mother’s Day, and Victoria’s (my daughter) birthday tomorrow. I’m gonna use it wisely and answer readers’ questions.

I’m really excited guys. Panama For Real is growing at a great pace. At the time of writing this, we have 104 newsletter subscribers and 432 likes on Facebook. We’ve also found our “go to” attorney, which is awesome. This guy, Edgardo J. Matteo Barsallo (goes by Gary Matteo), seems to really get it. He understands what we’re doing with Panama For Real, that we’re not interested in ripping people off or making a quick buck, and he’s ready to be our wingman for any Immigration related issues, and has even promised a discount for our readers. And his firm handles just about any other issues you can think of.

Please, if you contact him, let him know that Chris at Panama For Real sent you. You can reach him at ematteo@kmgroupcorp.com or garymatteo@gmail.com. If you want to check out his firm’s website, go to www.kmgroupcorp.com.

So let's get the Q and A going.

Gunnar asked (via contact us on PFR website), 

"Great site and some of the best write-ups on Panama that I have seen (incl. the various books one can purchase)!

"I have been looking through the various neighborhoods in Panama city for a while now (Internet + spending a few weeks total in the country). We have been looking for homes that provide lots of green-space (somewhat close to nature) and have property-lots that have a decent size. Paired with the requirement of not living in a pre-planned suburban-style cookie-cutter development, the available choices in Panama City become extremely scarce.

"Cerro Azul, as in your video, is nice but a tad far away. Ancon Hill looks nice but virtually no availability and VERY expensive. Same is true with some places in the Reverted Areas. There were some nice places in Veracruz/Majagual but then you have the issue of crossing the bridge to get kids to school etc, plus some of the infrastructure gets slightly more basic.

"One of the few places we discovered that is relatively close to the City and fits the requirements is Las Cumbres. Thus my question - What is your take on Las Cumbres? While there are some expats living there is does not get mentioned that often on the various Panama related sites.

"Thanks a lot!"

I replied:

"Thanks Gunnar for your kind words and for checking out the site. Yes, I'm familiar with Las Cumbres. My wife's uncle lives in Villa Zaita, which is right next to Las Cumbres. I like Las Cumbres a lot, and as you stated, it's a place slightly removed from the city, but not too far away. If you ask most Panamanians, they'll say, "No way, Las Cumbres is too far." But it's really close, actually. It just seems far because it's not right smack dab in the middle of the city. 

"Las Cumbres is an area that's very hilly, most of the homes aren't cookie-cutter, and there's a lot of land, so finding a backyard shouldn't be difficult. My daughters used to go to a school there, an all-Spanish Catholic school, so we drove back and forth quite a bit. 


The new Metro train station at Los Andes, near Las Cumbres

"Las Cumbres is also close to Los Andes, a budget shopping area and they're supposed to be building a mall next to that shopping center too. Plus, you'll have easy access to the Corredor Norte (a major toll highway) as there's an exit right there next to Villa Zaita and Las Cumbres.

"At some point I'll visit Las Cumbres and do a PFR Location Report and Video on the area."

Michael asked (via contact us on the site): 

"Can I get quite a bit of my Pensionado accomplished from David through a lawyer?  We might prefer to live in the interior or highlands; at least site ourselves in that part of the country at first. 

"Is there immigration office, US embassy satellite offices and DMV services in David (or other interior cities) that can handle this business?  Or is occasional trips to only PC simply the inevitable to accomplish the Pensionado."

I replied: 

"Hi Michael and thanks for writing. You can definitely take care of your DMV, driver's license, in David. You'll find those offices all over the place. You might even see some small Immigration offices, but as far as I know, to take care of the paperwork for your pensionado, or any other Immigration paperwork related issues, you'd need to visit Panama City. 

"If you hire a good lawyer, a lot of stuff can be taken care of without you there, then you just show up when your physical presence is required. 

"Contact Gary Matteo, our "go to" Immigration lawyer,  for the specifics. I think the pensionado process is pretty cut and dry. He should be able to hook you up, even if you're living in David. Get in touch with him at garymatteo@gmail.com.

"Hope this helps."

John asked (via comment on the PFR site):

"Chris, I am thinking of visiting there at some point, maybe retire in the near future, I noticed in your monthly budget you stated blood pressure and Diabetic supplies, So im taking it you are a diabetic? well so am I ( type 1 ) my question, how well do you get along over there with it, and how good are the doctors over there, and are you a native or from the U.S. thanks in advance for info."

I replied:

"Hi John, thanks for checking out the site. Yes, I'm beginning stages diabetic, so I just take a pill once per day (Metformina) and one pill (Zestril) for blood pressure. 

"One of the good things about Panama is I can get this medicine without a prescription. Of course, it's good to keep seeing the doctor to make sure you're getting the right dosage, but in the States I'd have to go see the doctor just to get a new prescription, then go to the pharmacy. You can buy both meds here from the pharmacy with no prescription. 

"Plus, you can buy most medicines here by the pill if you want. So if you're running low on cash and you just want to buy 5 pills for blood pressure, you can do that. That's very helpful when a doctor prescribes you just a few days worth of a cold medicine. In the U.S. you'd be forced to buy the entire box. 

"The doctors here, from what I've seen, are excellent and they're not afraid to diagnose a problem. I'm from the U.S., born in Tulsa, Oklahoma, but raised all over the place. I moved to Panama so my wife could be closer to her family, and because it seemed like a great adventure. So far I'm lovin' it!"

Michael asked (via email): 

"Hi Chris, I was wondering if you could help me.  My fiancé  told me that I need to bring a document that proves I am single.......so far I cant find any such document that exist.  Is this what you had to do when you got married? and if so where do I get such a document?"

I replied:

"Hey Michael, yes, she's correct. Here they just go to the civil registry (Panamanians) to get a certificate proving they've never been married. I'm not sure where you'd get this in the States. I've read about people having it done at the embassy here, but I'd definitely recommend having it done before coming just to make sure you're not caught up in any red tape. I'd check with the office of Vital Statistics (I think that's what it was called in the States...where you get your birth certificates and marriage certificates and stuff like that).

"I'm married to a Panamanian, but since we got married in the U.S., and came to Panama already married, I didn't have to do this. 


The U.S. Embassy in Clayton, Panama

"Here's the web page of the U.S. Citizen Services section of the U.S. Embassy here in Panama. It has their contact info and stuff on there. If you can't figure out how to get the paperwork in your home state, try contacting them to see if you can take care of it here in Panama. That page is: http://panama.usembassy.gov/american_citizen_services_unit.html

"Good luck, man!"

Rich wrote (via contact us on the PFR site):

"Just a quick note ... your "About Us" page still links to Amazon for your first book, which is--apparently--no longer available there?  At least, not at the link you provide.  Get that link updated so people can actually buy your book(s)."

I replied: 

"Hey Rich, thanks so much for trying to buy my book. Sorry for the inconvenience. I recently parted ways with my publisher, which led to my book suddenly disappearing from the virtual shelves. 

"So I just need to reformat the book, fix a few minor errors, and then re-publish it. I'll publish it myself this time around. I took it out of the sidebar, but forgot I'd mentioned it in the "About Us" page. 

"Also, I finished the first draft of the second book, so that'll be out soon too. Thanks again for trying to buy my book. I'll let everyone know when it's back up on the shelves."

Michael asked (via contact us): 

"How does Panama deal with trash/garbage collection and landfills?"

I replied: 

"Panama does use landfills and garbage collection is fairly dependable. The bill is combined with your water bill. 

"Garbage collection isn't like you might be used to back in the States or wherever you're from. You don't just put a large plastic container out by the street. Or in the Naperville (suburb of Chicago) area, where you had to buy stickers from the supermarket and they'd only collect bags that had the pre-paid stickers on them. Here, most homes have a metal garbage collection basket out near the street.  

"I've found that it's also a good practice to offer small tips or even sodas or something to your garbage men. If you take care of them, they're more likely to take care of you when you have large items you need to get rid of.

"And, keeping it real, I have to mention that in some areas, especially in the lower income areas, mostly because people don't want to pay for trash collection, people just create their own garbage collection points in the neighborhood and everyone tosses their garbage there. Like in the photo below. This forces the city to pick up the garbage in order to keep the streets clean. 



An unofficial garbage collection point

Also, I've seen in local newspapers that in certain areas (again, mostly the lower income areas), the garbage collection doesn't happen as frequently as it should, or not at all, which angers the residents, and they toss their garbage out by the street. I know the government recently purchased more trucks, and newer ones, to help with the collection process. 

"Some people, especially the older Panamanians, burn a lot of their garbage. You'll see these little smoke pits in the yard. So when you're driving down the street and you see a small fire going, don't be alarmed, it's probably just someone burning their garbage.


Some people still burn their garbage

"In Rio Hato, I met a woman who buried her garbage on her land. She burned what she could burn, and the rest she buried. So some people still stick with the old ways, but most just have their garbage collected (usually once per week)."

Marc asked (via comment on the PFR site):

"Hi Chris,

"I am a French Canadian living in Bali, Indonesia and I am going home on January 12, 2014 to prepare my application for a PENSIONADO VISA. You are quite the ambassador! Panama seems to be the right place for me, the permanent residency option is great and it looks much cleaner than Indonesia. Asia is great to visit but I think Central and South America are probably best to live, anyway this is my impression at the moment.

"Chris, you can help me with the name of a good lawyer and an idea of the cost for the visa application? P.S. Would love to meet you and your family. Thank you so much for your help and take care."

I replied:

"Thanks Marc. Wow, Indonesia. You’re definitely making your way around the world. Yes, I have a great lawyer to get you in touch with. I've mentioned him a few times in this post. Just email him at garymatteo@gmail.com and he should be able to give you all the help you need with the Immigration process."

Tracee asked (via comment on PFR site): 


"Please tell me more about the Work License. Do you have to get it if you are working privately for someone? Where can I find more information about it? Thank you!"

I replied:

"Hi Tracee. Yes, you’ll need the work license to be employed legally in Panama. You might find companies willing to pay you under the table, and you can work freelance (online jobs and stuff) without the license, but having one will make your life a lot easier here. 

"If you have questions about which visas allow you to obtain the work license, contact garymatteo@gmail.com, and I'm sure he can get you moving in the right direction. Thanks Tracee."

Well, that's it for this Q and A session. Thanks for reading and I hope some of this helped.   

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